and law enforcement. i respect those in the region who believe strongly that that would end the problem. i am not convinced of that, just speaking personally. i think, when you have a ruthless and vicious people who have made money one way and are somehow blocked, they will figure out another way. they will do kidnapping. they will do extortion. there will suborn officials and takeover swaths of territory that they will govern and terrorize people in. so i don't think that is the answer. whether there is some movement that can be discussed, i think it will have to be a topic for the future for us. >> thank you very much. [applause] >> madam secretary, you've asked us to think outside the box. so i will take this out of the box. [laughter] we tried with the exhortation of jake and his team to do something that was a bit of a non-conference even conferences typically and with the words, i would like to present an award that is a little different than others. in one respect, there's no hyperbole in this awar